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Posted on 03-03-13, 09:08 pm in New Player Group
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Posted by Skyop
First off, thanks fallenelf for agreeing to take time out of your day to do this. Secondly, I think if we took one particular topic such as last hitting or ganking or warding and really went in depth into it with some guides then maybe that weekend, put all that we have learned into a bot match then we could really start building a foundation of knowledge that we can apply in a game. I think having one thing to focus on a week and really getting comfortable with that one thing will make the games so much better for each of us as well as making the game funner because we will win more often.


The biggest problem is we just lobbied up and started playing. There was really no effort to impart knowledge at all and we just kinda focused on getting our faces stomped in both games . A little more organization and it can really be a solid idea, but for now its a bit rough around the edges
Posted on 03-03-13, 09:47 pm in New Player Group
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Skyop, if you want I would be happy to captain if they can't, that is if you would have me.

It is up to you, fallenelf, and uno. I'm here if you need me.
Posted on 03-03-13, 10:16 pm in New Player Group
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Skyop, if you want I would be happy to captain if they can't, that is if you would have me.

It is up to you, fallenelf, and uno. I'm here if you need me.


I think having a newer guy Captain is a better idea. A more experienced player, be it myself, lemon, or Uno, can give advice, but figuring out why certain heroes work together on your own will benefit more in the long run. I think a rotation of roles is also the best way to go about things. Mainly, rotating through positions 1-5 that way everyone works on a different role on a weekly/bi-weekly basis, seeing why certain heroes work with certain builds, etc.

Willing to do whatever the group thinks is best though.


I have one concern with the captain thing for one reason. With an inexperienced player leading it might become frustrating if results don't come. Learning will come with time whatever the circumstance with the captain the road to the fun, well learned times of dota might be a much longer and somewhat painful path.

With the role comment I can't say I have a problem with that at all. I think migglypuff said that everybody felt comfortable with support, but a real game can't really have all supports in practicality. Spreading out comfort among roles should be explored.
Posted on 03-03-13, 10:20 pm in Cheap computer?
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Newegg would be my source for the best price on parts.

Just as a general tip though, if you can afford it buy the higher quality parts so upgrading later wont be in a year or two, but MUCH later. I built my computer so it will have some longevity and I wont have to upgrade anything major within a couple of years of building it.
Posted on 03-03-13, 10:24 pm in New Player Group
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Posted by Skyop
That makes a lot of sense but a lot of the time, moving out of that comfort zone will produce unexpected results that can really fun or very effective. As newer players, we want to move into that secondary role and let the big bad vets stomp the bad guys but one day, we might want to stomp as well. Moving around roles will help to develop all skills too and will help to make each player a more rounded and adaptable player.


Personally I gravitated towards carry more when I first started (why you guys all like support over carry kinda threw me off a bit) but when everybody started picking the more fun hard carries I learned to support out of the need not really wanting to do it. Now I still prefer #1 or 2 role, but being versatile is important and it keeps the game kinda new because your stepping out of a comfort zone or what is fun to do something different
Posted on 03-03-13, 10:27 pm in Cheap computer?
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Posted by Skyop
Thats a really good idea. I never thought about that.


The only part that I might have to upgrade in the the relative future is my graphics card because games are getting better and better in the "taking all graphical memory" department.

But besides that things like processors will make the world of difference because they dont come out as often as new graphic tech so putting the money into it now will save you having to buy or build a new comp in the long run.
Posted on 03-03-13, 10:28 pm in New Player Group
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For me half the fun of dota is being able to blow up somebody in one hit/combo so if I can impart that joy into the new players (and believe me its enjoyable) then I'm down for helping out when and where I can
Posted on 03-03-13, 10:37 pm in New Player Group
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Lol I did that in our first game when I played morph. Shotgun morph is so much fun to play because its 1 item and 2 skills and you can insta-kill any support

Given enough time to farm up and get your items almost any agi carry can kill somebody in less than 5 hits
Posted on 03-03-13, 10:46 pm in New Player Group (rev. 1 by lemonstre1357 on 03-03-13, 10:47 pm)
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Sounds like fun to me

I might be a bit delayed 30 minutes max

Edit: Yes we post alot isn't that's what a forum is for?
Posted on 03-03-13, 10:50 pm in Cheap computer?
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Planetside is a bit of a graphics hog, Its Infamous for its horrible use of computer assets and thus you need a pretty strong comp to run it. That said Dota on a $500 budget is very accessible
Posted on 03-03-13, 10:56 pm in Cheap computer?
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I have an integrated intel graphics card on my laptop and I dont believe I can run it

I believe it is Intel Integrated Graphics 4000
Posted on 03-03-13, 10:59 pm in Cheap computer?
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The graphics card that my laptop runs is a Radeon 7670 and that can run dota not as well as my desktop but it does the job
Posted on 03-04-13, 04:49 am in New Player Group
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I don't think captains mode was really on the menu it was more of having some sort of captain the 5 stack. CM is very hard to get into when you first start out and its mm pool is MUCH smaller than the typical AP or AR so you would probably be matching higher than in those modes. Unless its an IH I doubt there will be much Captains Mode.
Posted on 03-05-13, 02:50 am in New Player Group
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Frankly, learning one on one is probably the best option. Individual learning and focusing on what each person will need to learn just will be hard in a group. That said things like team cooperation and dynamics and strategy and such basically have to be taught in context from game to game and in a team.

Individual teaching would be more time consuming, but probably will yield the best individual results. Following that up with the group sessions on teamwork and such. Will probably be the best.

I would be happy with some coaching if you need me. Im on US central time, -5:00 GMT, or -7hrs from CET (Available mostly on weekends, but some weekdays)
Posted on 03-05-13, 02:53 am in Cheap computer?
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Posted by Skyop
Yeah. That's the thing. I want to be able to play other games as well. For example, I played the hell out of Torchlight and I want to get the second one and I will probably be addicted to that as well.


Completely off topic of building a cpu, but IMO Path of Exile is better just sayin
Posted on 03-05-13, 02:54 am in It hurts to watch this much fail :(
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I can proudly say I've never done that because I think I've only played one Naga game and nothing that big of a fail happened
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Ah. Makes sense. I'm new to the item thing. In time i will figure it out.


For things that are non-mythical/legendary it typically depends on how much a person wants your particular item.

ex. I had 2 bloodseeker Bonehunter Skullguard and obviously I want to either trade or risk destroying for a better item. Well I was lucky for enough to find the BIGGEST bloodseeker fan and he wanted the helmet so he traded me 10 keys for it. This is WAY WAY WAY overpriced like maybe worth one key, but because he probably put at least that many keys into chests trying to get it. I later got offers for the same helmet along the lines of one other rare or a key.

Case and Point: If you have a rare you really want to get rid of just wait for that one crazy guy that really wants it. Its better than to just blow the chance for a better item when you delete it.
Posted on 03-05-13, 03:43 am in Cheap computer?
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If you've ever played Diablo 2 & 3, it is the sequel that Diablo 3 SHOULD have been instead of the piece of crap it was
Posted on 03-05-13, 03:53 am in New Player Group
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Specialists could work, but personal improvement is pretty unique. Also finding the teacher pool for each individual "lesson" might be a bit hard.

Just a small list of possible lessons - carry, support, ganking, jungling, postioning, lane control/postioning, map awareness

That's 7 lessons and to find a teacher that has a comfortable amount of knowledge to call them self a "specialist". I think if we have just a bunch of people that ask what each person wants to learn the most mixed in with some general knowledge would be a bit easier to approach from a teaching perspective. Not to mention if I had to teach 10 different people the same exact lesson over and over and over I would be a bit bored and tired after that.
Posted on 03-05-13, 05:08 am in New Player Group
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Which match are you planning on showing the first or the second?
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