I play 5 (hard support) when playing with my team, so I thought I would share something that is really useful for me.



It's take a little practice, but you can pull camps correctly on radiant without stacking too (using tangoes)

najs

nice!

It should be noted, that the Radient Hard camp to middle lane 27/57 pull, you need to body block the Melee creeps and kind of guide em towards the camp just a little bit, otherwise you could just get the Ranged creep, which is difficult for melee heroes to do.

And the Scourge easy pull at 03/33, try not to pull it into tower range, i.e run leftish around the tree line, otherwise the tower will 2 shot the first neutral creep and the lane won't pull / only get the ranged.

Its also possible, but extremely difficult to pull off( Only person I seen get it was Poker ) to pull the Radient ancients when you cut down alot of trees

Awesome pic skypro! In case anyone is wondering, his team name is CDL, the Canadian Defense League.

So the 1st number is when you pull and the other is stacking?
Very uselful guide thanks a load mate.

Both numbers are for pulling the camp into the lane.

Ideally to stack the camp you should be pulling creeps from camps at around X:52.

How does the "pile-on" camp work?

Pile on camp? if by that you mean the "creep stack" then i can help!

basically if the camp of creeps isnt in their spawn location at the time for a new set to spawn (every minute on the minute after 30 seconds )

then another set of creeps is going to spawn, and that gives you 2 sets worth of guys!

so if i want to "stack the "camp" then like 5-7 seconds before the top of the minute (on the clock at _:53 to _:55) im going to attack a creep in that camp and run them away from their spawning location then ill make sure those creeps arent close to their spawning location at all so that a new set of creeps will spawn and you get your "stack"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0lRBsgDlDE

heres a really short clip of this idea in action!

No, I mean on the diagram it shows, on the radiant side, two camps to be somehow pulled into the near camp to the bottom lane. Marked with a white 'Pile-on Camp' icon on the map. I get creep stacking in place.

Ahh i gotcha

Yeah thats easy, you just break one of the trees in the back of the pull camp to pull that second camp into your creeps, you can only do it if theyre attacking in the pullcamp, otherwise its too far

Oh, so if you've already pulled your creeps into that camp, you can pull those camps in there as well. I see!

Yes you can! If you cut the tree and pull one of those camps into your normal pull camp the creeps will attack those neutrals too! its great when you want to kill every creep in a wave if you havent stacked your pull camp, this is a great fix to that! its also good for killing the lane to deny experience to your enemy, especially if the enemy is already suicide laning theyll get even less XP than they alreay are and they arent getting alot to begin with!

This came in handy today to show a friend, gracias!