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Posted on 02-28-13, 08:43 pm
Giant Red Koopa
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here ya go:

http://dotabuff.com/matches/114408944

22-4-18, all of those assists coming in because of radiance burn due to ulti. 600 gpm isn't the greatest, but considering how shit of a laner spectre is I was happy about it. Next item was going to be an AC.
Posted on 02-28-13, 09:02 pm
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Spectre is such a pain of a hero. I have lost too many times when my team has the advantage but then my teammates get in the lets just keep farming and not push our advantage. They just ignore the spectre and 20 minutes later boom....can't kill her.

Radiance can also be used to just pick off the heroes as they try to run away from a team fight with low health, ult and let it do its work. To optimize the annoyance of her ult, I like to add a diffusal blade on top of that.

Also, I have to say I admire the scepter coordination on the opposing team. Same slot and everything.
Posted on 02-28-13, 09:06 pm
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Posted by prettypenguin
Also, I have to say I admire the scepter coordination on the opposing team. Same slot and everything.


They are a good group of guys. They're actually in he league now and have been on the TS server a bunch.
Posted on 02-28-13, 09:19 pm
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I gotta say something about radiance

I completely hate the item

the right click damage is nice but if I'm gonna drop all my lane farm into an item that scales horribly into the late game
it seems like its just a waste of time

For heros like Phantom Cancer and Spec diffusal just seems like a better option for early fighting
For like alch who uses it as a pseudo-battlefury for farming something like Mjollnir that will let him abuse his BaT from his ult

I just cant see dropping all the farm on one item that actually might be replaced later by another item.
Posted on 02-28-13, 09:23 pm
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Posted by lemonstre1357
I gotta say something about radiance

I completely hate the item

the right click damage is nice but if I'm gonna drop all my lane farm into an item that scales horribly into the late game
it seems like its just a waste of time

For heros like Phantom Cancer and Spec diffusal just seems like a better option for early fighting
For like alch who uses it as a pseudo-battlefury for farming something like Mjollnir that will let him abuse his BaT from his ult

I just cant see dropping all the farm on one item that actually might be replaced later by another item.


I agree, I love a quick diffusal on carries like spectre. However, with spectre if you get enough survival items you are able to deal damage even while locked down with radiance and dispersion. I am not arguing for the scaling power of radiance, but that passive damage can be incredibly annoying.
Posted on 02-28-13, 09:24 pm
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Posted by lemonstre1357
I gotta say something about radiance

I completely hate the item

the right click damage is nice but if I'm gonna drop all my lane farm into an item that scales horribly into the late game
it seems like its just a waste of time

For heros like Phantom Cancer and Spec diffusal just seems like a better option for early fighting
For like alch who uses it as a pseudo-battlefury for farming something like Mjollnir that will let him abuse his BaT from his ult

I just cant see dropping all the farm on one item that actually might be replaced later by another item.


It's really situational, it's a great farming and pushing item for heroes that don't have a ton of pushing power or inherent farming abilities.

On Spectre, it allowed me to farm ridiculously well (thanks to my supports stacking the jungle camps a few times), as well as push waves on my own, then ult into a teamfight and do decent damage without actually having to be there. I'm not a fan of radiance on PL since he really doesn't need it and his illusions don't benefit. On alchemist, well, it allows for insanely fast farming. Try playing alch and having your supports stack all of the jungle camps 2-3 times, then walk in with a raidance and acid spray, the farm rate is absolutely insane.

Radiance isn't about the right click power, it's about the AoE. If you use it right, you'll make your gold back relatively quickly. It scales decently into the late game against supports as well.
Posted on 02-28-13, 09:30 pm
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The problem is how radiance scales

Yes as a farming tool it is probably one of the best farming tools
Yes as an extra AoE damage it is great

My problem comes from the fact that any kind of extra magic resist or pipe makes its damage trivial

Early game it is beyond annoying but straight up deadly
Late game unless it leads you to snowball so u have a full inventory it doesn't give the cost/benefit of almost every comparable cost item that a late game carry would probably build
Posted on 02-28-13, 09:33 pm (rev. 1 by  _ATLAS on 02-28-13, 09:33 pm)
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Radiance starts as a midgame dps item into a snowball item then lategame it becomes an anti blink dagger item and some dps
you can also use it to burn through pipes and it still is devestating to supports late game, and for pushing
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